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joe waymire
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 Posted - 12/14/2009 : 08:39:43 AM
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is the sportsman class the d beginner class i want to be sure i get in the right class when i join
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Farrell
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Posted - 12/15/2009 : 3:23:16 PM
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Regarding Advancement Percentile Ranges...
Over the past few years, many have suggested that we move to advancement percentiles, with the old software system it would have been extremely difficult to do, however the NEW software(MotoTally), here is an explanation of Advancement Percentiles...
1. The NEW scoring system allows for categorizing riders into classes based on speed. When a race has been completed the top three riders speed will be averaged. That average speed will be the 100% baseline all other riders will be compared to for that race. The average of all completed lap times of all riders will be compared to this 100% to determine every rider’s percentile. Using a simple example; if 100% for that race is a 24 MPH average and a rider’s average speed was 21 MPH then that rider’s percentile is 87.5. This system enables similar speeds to be grouped together.
2. A percentile range is assigned to each class name. Class names are unnecessary but used to help riders pick the correct class. After each race, all riders will be evaluated to see if their percentile is in the range for that class. Going above a percentile range is called “breaking out”. To allow for fluctuations, a break out system has been developed. Each breakout point is recognized and stored. When a rider breaks out a total of 10 points, the rider will move up. One example would be a rider who does not enter the correct class and breaks out by 10 points on the first race. A second example would be a rider who breaks out two points over five races. Once a rider has completed six races, for that season, the rider will remain in that class unless the rider chooses to move up.
3. If a rider is moved up the rider can carry points to the new class. This is done by evaluating the overall results for a given race and then determining where a rider would have finished had they been in that class on that day. An example would be a rider who finished 1st in B and would have finished 4th in A. 4th Place points will be awarded as the carry up points. This is carefully done so that no riders in the upper class are bumped down by the move up and no riders in the lower class move up because of the vacancy. In the example above, the results will now reflect the first place position was vacated and the two 4th place positions in the A class for that race.
4. If a rider is moved down, the points carry in the same fashion. A rider who wants to move down can submit his request to the series official. Percentile results will be evaluated to determine if the rider should be moved. A rider who can not reach the minimum speed for his class can be moved down, after the rider completes a total of three races.
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3:16 | James 1:19 | series officer since 2005 |
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Farrell
3280 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2009 : 9:47:26 PM
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OK, here are the calculated Advancement Percentiles.
email(ahscs@msn.com) or call me(501)529-4779 if you have questions about where you were placed for 2010
A few things to note...
With Advancements Percentiles, the classes NAME is not as important as it used to be. Look at the percentile ranges for the classs and the other riders in your class. The goal is to have classes where anyone in the class stands a better than average chance of finishing in the top three at any given race.
If you feel that you are being placed in a class where you don't belong let me know. If you want to ride in a class other than the one assigned, please let me know. No system is perfect so we may need to tweak a few things. Also, if you did not ride in very many events, the calculated AP for you might not be accurate.
CLASS (Advancement Percentile) : plate colors background/numbers ..Description
"AA (100 - 91.1)" : red/white ..Pro Class, Cash Payout 100% or more, payback to top 50% of riders
"A Open (91 - 82.1)" : black/white ..Advanced Intermediate Class, Trophy top 3 finishers
"A Vet 35+ (89 - 80.1)" : black/yellow ..Advanced Intermediate Class 35 and over, Trophy top 3 finishers
"B Open (82 - 75.1)" : silver/blue ..Intermediate Class, Trophy top 3 finishers
"B Vet 35+ (80 - 73.1)" : silver/black ..Intermediate Class 35 and over, Trophy top 3 finishers
"C Open (75 - 65.1)" : blue/white ..Average Class any age, Trophy top 3 finishers
"C Vet 30+ (73 - 0)" : blue/yellow ..Average class for riders 30 and over, Trophy top 3 finishers
"C Sr 40+ (71 - 0)" : yellow/black ..Average class for riders 40 and over, Trophy top 3 finishers
"Masters 50+ (69 - 0)" : orange/black ..Class for Riders 50 and over, Experenced Riders, Trophy top 3 finishers
"Sportsman (65 - 56.1)" : white/blue ..Class for riders too fast for trailrider class but not ready for the C class all ages, Trophy top 5 finishers
"SchoolBoy(no speed rules" : white/black ..Ages 16 and under, race 1 hour 11 and under must have escort. Trophy top 5 finishers
"Trailrider (56 - 0)" : white/black ..Entry level Class, Trophy top 5 finishers
I've only included 2009 members, so if you are not a member in 2009 and rode a few races and want to know where you would fall, let me know...
Anyway, here it is... 2010 Class Placement
The Shaded Blue Column indicates where you should ride in 2010. |
3:16 | James 1:19 | series officer since 2005 |
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Farrell
3280 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2009 : 09:20:37 AM
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Originally posted by Worsham
Hey Farrell, thanks for the hard work. I am in Sportsman. What the? HAHA. The only problem, I can see with Sportsmen, is when you have local guys come in and sign up for the class, just like when you have guys come in and sand bag on beginner. There's obviously no way to tell by looking at them what class they belong in. They won't be members so they won't get our points, but they will take the trophies. I guess the one solution is to get faster, and not make a career out of the Sportsman class. This percentile scoring is going to work great.
You can "ride up" if you like, I'm just showing where the software placed you...  Good point about locals, however with the new software, we can keep track of the local riders AP, so the next time they shows up we will be able to "guide" them to the correct class.  |
3:16 | James 1:19 | series officer since 2005 |
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2010 AHSCS Classes and Riders
